I need your mummy-son advice – see below. But before we get into that, what incredible weather we’ve had, eh?! Except for right now, as if the weather’s declaring NO MORE SUMMER FOR YOU. Ah well, it has generally been blissful and warm, time for lazing about and reading books and watering the garden …
… so yes after a delightful summer break, I’ve been doing some more wondering in the direction of the ‘backyard’ estranged-twins sort of scenario, and it occurred to me that through all my comics I’ve covered/referenced most ‘kinks’, most family combination issues in one way or another … EXCEPT the mother-son angle. So, while getting my as-yet unpublished young twins closer together, I’ve also written in a little mummy content, because why not, eh?
So tell me – those of you who are into the older woman / mother figure kind of thing – why’s that eh? What is it about the mother figure that is so attractive? I’m hoping for something beyond the predictable porn trope of authority dominatrix, or the you-owe-me sort of relationship that seems to be about the place. You know, where the son either coerces his poor mother into sex stuff, or she dominates the poor boy into sex stuff – both of which are just abuse and aren’t routes I’m particularly interested in portraying in any comic … but tell me; that stuff aside, what makes it hot? What might make it really, actually work, eh?
Because I have a theory, and I’ve written it, but I’m also open to ideas at this early stage.
Anyway, while you good people of the internet are pondering that, here are a bunch of render tests, one absurdly-proportioned mother character, and one very large summer hat! Love these moments, you know when you’re pottering around the garden, dead-heading this and that, wobbling about in the early morning before it gets too hot, as your estranged but recently re-homed teenage son watches goggle-eyed from the house.
Ah yes, let’s stick some voyeurism in there for good measure, eh? Perhaps that forms part of it, early observation of something truly epic? Written into young impressionable minds? It sort of feels like the indirect ‘observation’ sorts of shots are a bit more fraught with sexual tension, I think. Perhaps that’s part of it.
And in case you haven’t seen it, this is WELL worth honourable mention, on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKROin-qwiE
My theory about why incest fantasies works, whether actual parent/child, step-parent/step-child, siblings, parent’s sibling/parent’s child, and so on is that it is sort of low-hanging fruit and a remnant of our very distant past. I recall reading in “The Cartoon History of the Universe” (which is a great read) a theory that in pre-historic times tribes found that it was actually beneficial for children of tribe members to marry outside of the tribe and that they may have figure out the genetic downside to marrying within the family so it quickly became a taboo for health reasons more than anything else.
I also think fantasies about fucking members of ones own family is probably pretty common. Hence my belief that such fantasies are also low-hanging fruit. It’s easier to fantasize about fucking people you know or are related to than even a schoolmate or someone you work with. I grew up near the Ozark region of the United States where there is a stereotypical behavior of them going to family reunion to find their next boyfriend or girlfriend. It wouldn’t be a stereotype if it didn’t have a kernel of truth to it.
I also think the abuse part of these kind of fantasies are because they can’t see how else such an interaction would work otherwise. But, I think that also goes for many other fantasies. Domination is just easier to believe than building up to a healthy relationship that tips over into sex.
Yeah the [ancient] history part of it is interesting, for sure. It’s been good looking at the feedback below though – lots of very different takes on it.
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Personally, I am of the opinion that since his mother is the first person a boy imprints on as an infant, that impression sets a standard that can be hard to meet by any other woman, especially if his mom is attractive! As the old saying goes “a boy’s first love is usually his mother”!
My teenage fantasy, alive and well to this day, was to be adopted by a voluptuous French woman in her thirties who would take me under her wing and teach me the art of seduction and how to explore and pleasure a woman. She would capture my heart and teach me how to touch her in innocence and to listen to her body with all my senses wide open. I did not learn how to surrender in life until very recently, to have learnt that level of trust and love with a mature woman as a teenager would have been heavenly.
Yeah, good that you learnt it at all though – I think it’s super common never to happen at all, so glad to hear that ‘surrender’ is something you’ve found 👍
And the French woman fantasy: also good 🥐
Wow, ok, I fear my input will be very different to the other comments, which are pretty good actually.
This is very personal, but I am giving my overall experience and background context, to provide a possible narrative that could be used.
My mother took me from my father and left France to the country in which I now reside, when I was very young. As a result, I had no father figure for the first 5 years of my life really. I was the only constant for my mother and, through all her failed boyfriends and sexcapades, I was always there as her comfort, always making her feel better, feel ok, feel loved. It was all on me as a kid. I wasn’t allowed to be angry at her or sad with her, because that would set her off, and I had to be good to make her happy.
I’ll be honest, this fucked me up in ways that I have been in therapy for, for a long time, and still to this day.
The other aspect of my relationship with my mother is that she is overly sexual to the point of being an issue. She paraded around nude right into my teens and often in front of my friends when we were younger. This left a lasting impression (obviously). She would often introduce me to her clients or friends who were within an age range (because she felt she was helping), and her motivation was for me to go on a date or something. Often pushing how handsome I was or some shit like that. Invariably I did land up sleeping with these women in my late teens and twenties. This, among a myriad of other things, warped my relationship with sex and intimacy. I am working through sex being purely for my self-esteem in something I am “good at”, because of my mother.
So, if we think about incestuous relationships with one’s mother, I would imagine that this could evolve from wanting to please mommy, and keep her happy despite all her sadness, given her overtly sexual nature, stepping to the next level and using your sexual abilities becomes a no-brainer (in the fictional world).
Flippin’ heck Phil, that’s a huge and really important thing you shared – thank you. I honestly think that’s a very common and difficult thing, where the parent needs parenting – and then we deal with the consequences in our own ways later, and think … huhhh … that shouldn’t have happened. Hmm.
Anyway I’m really happy to read you talking about getting therapy for it, because much like me there’s some sh1t our parent(s) do that we definitely need some help talking through and getting to the bottom of. Textbook over-sexualisation of a parent can be suuuper damaging, so I really hope you are okay continuing to work through that shit, and just want to send a high-five through the ether: 🖐️
It’s not your fault. For real. Keep going man.
Not a big fan of domination in general, but when I was younger I was definitely attracted to older ladies that had a motherly aura around them, someone who could teach you by example how to take care of other people, how to listen to their needs, how to be there for them, and thus deserved the same to be done to her.
I could do without a mom/son thing but that’s me … also what’s up with the nipples on mom??? I know it’s a model thing but gah… oh ps… thank you for taking the time to post… was going through withdrawals for the past month lol.
Yeahhhhh, nipples take a bit of work to get right. I’m not sure either, but with all of those sorts of details, I have to balance ‘getting it right’ with ‘doing it within my lifetime’, so sometimes I just shrug and carry on hehe
Hi. hope you get some tan. ^^
To the question abaout Mom-Son-Thingies… I dont think it’s all abaout abuse one of them by the other. I think in two ways. Maybe it’s the son don’t get the changings with his body very well and mom want to help to understand what is going on, what he can do now and why is it so fun to that. Ander while her “teaching” mom feel the 2nd spring comes around and it goes to a more practical teaching. 😉
The other way i think is the left mom. Maybe dad left, died or something or Dad doesnt show any interesset in Mom anymore. Maybe has a young secretary or so. Long story short, Mom feel lonely and sexual frustrated. And there comes the son. maybe he see her masturbating or he feels that mom is sad. So he tries to show her how much he loves her and that she is not an “old hag” to him.
This is what i think about the Mom-Son-Thing. Sure there are more szenarios. Like Rape, Drugs, Drunk, Hypnotize, Blackmailing and so on, but i think my thoughts are the most plausible. Which Son would rape his mom? Sexual preference aside and maybe mom learns/likes some more kinkystuff than just vanilla. To explore more and more stuff in her 2nd spring and while learning that a mom is not an old hag + exploring the sins of having fun with her son can get a whole new serie. From small kisses and “OMG what am i doing here” to “he makes me feel so alive” to ” i would do everything for” to “f.ck f.ck f.cuk… this is creazy.. but.. Ohhhhhhhh”… there is litarely no limit what cann’t be explored. cuddling, teasing, flirting to BDSM, Gangbang, public …. To explore the 2nd spring can be so much.
So let your spirit fly. I’m sure you will not disappoint us. You never did.
Yes I agree your scenario is much more real-world likely that the rape/abuse scenario, it’s just that p0rn (both comics and video) tend to be lazy and just skip to the sex – and the fastest way to do that is to ignore the relationship completely and just be like “HEY MOM UR A WHORE LETS BANG” – which just simply wouldn’t happen unless you’re an utter tool, and if you’re that much of a bellend, the likelihood is you’d realise and commit suicide before you hit thirty.
So yeah … lonely and frustrated … much more likely. Much more kind. Much more believable. And as we know, believable means sexy 🙂
I, for one, am looking forward to this addition, and I think the model looks amazing! I’m looking forward to what you come up with.
Okay…I think there are a few things going on here.
I don’t think people are necessarily thinking about their own family members as such. Not saying it isn’t like that for some folks, but definitely not a necessary part.
I think in terms of incest in general, part of it is just people being uncontrollably horny, and so doing stuff when there is very good reason not to because they just can’t control their lust. The fact that it is weird and awkward and in the real world would (for most people including many having the fantasy) be gross – that the horniness supercedes anything else is the turn on.
Part of it I think can also be the fantasy of a guy being treated as a sex object. ‘Bro/son I need penis. You have penis. Can I use your penis?’
Part of it also – and I think this is probably where the mommy bit comes in especially – is the idea of sex as people looking after eachother, being looked after. By someone who feels the need to look after them and their needs, in this case even if it’s weird and awkward. And that can go both ways, with the mom looking after the son but also visa versa.
Yeah good points, I often forget that magnetism of simple ‘looking after’ – but like its opposites (loneliness or something), the experiencing of that feeling is a serious human urge we can’t and shouldn’t ignore
I’ve always looked at it as “child has an ache, parent solves it. Child has hurt, parent fixes it. Child gives a question, parent gives honest answer.” kind of thing. Not so much “I will bend YOU over and spank YOU this time, you old nag!” but more of a “No one really likes me or wants me around. What is wrong with me? How could anyone ever really want me? Maybe I’d be better off not being here.” parent then consoles something like “That’s absurd! Everyone would love you if they saw you like I see you! You’re handsome, funny, caring, smart, and you have all your love on your sleeve, my dear. I know I shouldn’t say this, but if I were younger you’d be the one that caught MY eye.” and then things just escalate from there. It’s also a sense of “I’m so old and wrinkly, there is no one out there that wants this. I’m too old, too gross, and too feeble. I’ll just be alone and undesired”. Take all of that and you start to create a tension and a desire to “help one another out and show how much they are still loved”. Small lines get crossed and others get crossed out. But this same facet could be reversed for Father-daughter conversations, too. I think it’s about showing vulnerability and the older person realizes, from wisdom and age, that showing vulnerability is something that is sacred and not something to be used as a weapon against the other. They take that as a sign of affection, then it can all build from there.
Just my crazy 1.5 cents.
Yeah makes sense, esp small lines being crossed – I’ve often felt the sexiest moments (incest aside) are the small lines being crossed towards someone. Sitting on a sofa watching a film, an elbow touches an arm and they don’t pull away – that sort of ‘nothing’. In reality when that happens with a potential lover, the world explodes with wonderment!
I think it just comes down to a persons mother being the standard by which all other women throughout ones life are judged. Even if your mother is an absolutely horrid person, you use her to judge how not to be, and if shes a saint then you use her as an example of how to be. So its natural, from a male perspective, to seek out a woman much like your mother, or the exact opposite, and thus a small step to desire ones mother. Not for everyone, but I doubt its all that uncommon no matter what “proper society” says. Even for me, having never viewed my mother that way, I can look at a picture of my mother when she was young and totally see why my father went for her. Hell, theres a reason I prefer redheads of the auburn variety, though ginger is still very attractive, and thats because my mother set my standard of beauty, behavior, and personality.
Omg tell me about it, seeing photos of family members when they were younger I’m like DAAAAAAMN and then I have to step aside that feeling and be look Ohhhh, I mean … gosh I can appreciate how attractive … um … the … errrrr … moving on …
(I would, though.)
Never had an ounce of sexual feeling towards a relative. However, I have always had (and still have) a penchant for older women. When I was young they knew so much more than I did. They were experienced, knew what they wanted and were more than prepared to tell me. They turned me into a more skilled and far more patient lover (I claim no credit – I followed instruction; we’re born with no natural skills). They taught me to care about their satisfaction as they had the experience not to accept disappointment without comment.
Has it faded as I’ve grown older? No. As I’ve aged, I’ve become a sapiophile and as a result I still find women of my age and older far more alluring than younger women.
Yeah although that’s understandable (by me) from a friendship or advice point of view, I’ve never understood it from a sexuality point of view, so thank you for adding your side of it, always interesting to read these takes on life 🙂
I think it’s pretty simple, actually…. deep down, we want to have sex with someone who knows everything about us, yet has always loved us and always will. Girlfriends come and go, wives too… but to have mind-blowing sex with the only woman in the world who’s loved you since the moment you were conceived… and who you’ve loved since the moment you were born… and who’s happiest when she’s taking care of you… well, how much better can a fantasy get than that? Who can possibly make love to you better than that?
That said, I’m sure that for the vast, VAST majority of us who enjoy mother-son porn, the thought of doing anything like that for real with our actual mothers is just ugh, no way, forget it, NO. Like, never even a flicker. Because in a fantasy, she can be a slim, stacked MILF with whom you don’t have any pesky memories getting in the way of your mutual lust, you don’t have to worry about ruining your relationship with her or destroying your family, it’s always sunny in Incestland.
I can’t wait to see you do a mother-son story, Sindy. I’ve been following you forever — posted anonymously in the past that I love it when your characters say I love you and I love it when they kiss, among many other posts. 🙂 You truly are the best!
nobody, not even the rain, has such huge cumshots
So much rocks about this comment haha! Seriously considering “It’s always sunny in incestland” being the next comic title tbh 😂
Oh and I’m pretty sure I remember the comment you refer to – there’s a moment when a certain Blue alien is on someone’s lap and they say ‘I love you’ – I remember someone commenting that was the hottest thing about the comic, and that really made me stop and think about why that might be. I’m saying that literally helped my approach to comics and writing because it was below the [my] level of consciousness before that, but that comment helped bring it out – what are my comics really about? How do I write more of that? V helpful, thank you.
The only other time that’s happened to the same extent was when a few people commented about their favourite bit being in Lithium where Mike is kind to the stutterer the first time – at that time those henchmen are just sort of random comic relief – but because the comic feedback people were like “Omg really relate to the henchmen being kind to each other” it really made me think about what the comics were actually exploring, heheh.
Seems to me to be an instance of convenience. Both quantities are knowns, both quantities are close (as Ian Fleming once wrote, “… nothing propinks like propinquity…”), both quantities have already had a very intimate relationship with each other.
I agree with B. please give her nipples like Charlie’s, firm and outstanding like in your gif of her dancing, I love that.
An older woman that becomes a friend, maybe a widow that needs some help with her garden or some decorating. You work and she provides tea, biscuits and conversation. The work slowly becomes secondary, talking, maybe watching a movie after she’s cooked a meal for both of you after you have finished that day’s tasks. Maybe a cuddle if she gets emotional or just a hug when you leave, a peck on the cheek leads to one on the lips accidentally, embarrassing her then laugh together. No pressure from either side, weeks… maybe months go by and you just stay friends or you both take it a step further, who knows where it will go but going there gives pleasure to both parties………
Yep that sounds totally believable. That’s the way relationships normally get going I think, rather than the porn-dominating cliche that it has something to do with ‘confidence’ or trickery of some sort.
When it comes to mother-son incest stories, the Japanese have it to a fine art. I’ve been translating Japanese incest ero-manga for some ten years now, nearly 500 stories usually from 20 pages to a several hundred (uff). When I first started this kind of work, I had no idea just how popular Japanese incest was, not just in Japan but all over the globe. The variety of mother-son incest in the Japanese hentai comics is amazing. My preferences are single, divorced or widowed mother, or perhaps husband being away because of work, simply because it avoids the awkwardness of “being caught in the act”. But of course, sometimes that just can’t be avoided! My favorite stories are where the son finds his mother masturbating without her realizing it. That starts the whole fantasy of the boy seeing his mother as a woman. That usually leads to using mother’s underwear, mother finding her semen soaked panties, perhaps hearing her son masturbating and calling out “mom”. Personally I find stories where the mother initiates the encounter not very believable, just can’t see what kind of mother would do that to her child. I prefer stories where the son somehow makes his intentions known. Sometimes just telling the mother how much he loves her is a starting point. As for my own “hobbies”, voyeurism is the best!
Thank you for all the wonderful work you’re doing, it’s truly appreciated!
Ah, thanks Amoskandy, that’s interesting. I agree on the whole that it’s less likely to be initiated/driven by the mother, and your path-to-sex definitely sounds believable. That sounds like a lot of comics you’ve translated – do you get paid for it? Seems interesting to do it if it’s not your personal fantasy.
[Hat-tip to voyeurism, btw]
In all my 10 years of translations, I made less than $1000. Most of it was on commissions because people kept offering me money. I don’t do this for money, it’s just my passion.
I don’t think people are necessarily thinking about their own family members as such. Not saying it isn’t like that for some folks, but definitely not a necessary part.
I think in terms of incest in general, part of it can be just people being uncontrollably horny, and so doing stuff when there is very good reason not to because they just can’t control their lust. The fact that it is weird and awkward and in the real world would (for most people including many having the fantasy) be gross – that the horniness supercedes anything else is part of the turn on.
Part of it I think can also be the fantasy of a guy being treated as a sex object – like not necessarily in a dehumanising way but just – ‘Bro/son I need penis. You have penis. Can I use your penis?’
Part of it also – and I think this is probably where the mommy bit comes in especially – is the idea of sex as people looking after eachother, being looked after. By someone who feels the need to look after them and their needs, in this case even if it’s weird and awkward. And that can go both ways, with the mom looking after the son but also visa versa.
Yeah that ‘looking after’ thing is definitely very human and relatable, for sure.
I have more trouble with the ‘sex object’ thing – as someone who’s suffered at the hands of others, there is nothing [I find] sexy about being objectified. Though that’s obviously not everyone’s experience, objectification at that level might seem fun from the outside/inexperienced but I think the reality of it is very depressing. Aaaanyway, that’s just me and my baggage hah! Definitely agree about the horniness though – we often forget we are all flippin weird animals and if our blood gets ‘up’, we can turn into these absolute tornados of HOOOORRRRRNNNNNNN hahaha
I don’t know if the ‘reality of it’ would necessarily be good for a lot of this stuff and a lot of this seems more like fun ‘from the outside’ anyway though right? I mean true of a lot of fantasy stuff in general, not even just sex stuff?
I think also because maybe it’s less common for guys to feel objectified or even if they do maybe the power dynamic is different, so the fantasy seems less threatening? Like some of the sister/stepsister fantasies you see are the sister wanting to practice a sex act with the brother’s penis… but it doesn’t seem like the girl is intimidating or imposing that on the guy ? I mean even in Maddy and Crash 2 – she needed the medicine from his penis right? That kind of thing. Less common I guess with the mommy stuff but still… I mean not saying it can’t get creepy – it absolutely can – but not necessarily?
PS Also sorry for posting same thing twice under very slightly different monikers… It was my first time posting and with the delay thought the first one might not have gone through… You may or may not wanna delete the ‘platonymous’ one… sorry
Aye fair enough 🙂
And no problem at all, it’s hard to tell when comments work or not
My particular kink has always been “hidden sex”. That is two people who look innocuous together but are actually fooling around.
Incest fits in well with hidden sex because the two protagonists naturally want to hide their shenanigans from the rest of the family!
Brother/sister appeal to me more, maybe because they’re the same age? It’s a good question. I pondered the question for quite some time and couldn’t come up with very good reasons except the age thing.
I do like some mother/son comics like Anoko no Kawari ni Suki na dake and Hitozuma A-san to Musuko no Yuujin N-kun.
But my favorites are bro/sis like Tomodachi n uchi de orusuban and of course the famous Experiment Sisters.
Hehh, thanks I’ll check those references out. I definitely agree part of the allure for me is the ‘hidden’ aspect. Perhaps that’s the flip-side of the voyeurism draw – that it offers some control or some secret that is often so tempting. I’m writing it into the upcoming Lithium – more hidden sex – I don’t know why it’s so sexy but I guess it does have that control thing going on and that’s always interesting, especially considering the overall topic of Lithium being about control hehh 🙂
For me, there’s always been a kind of an “EWWWW” factor, in regards to incestuous subject matter.
I mean, I love the play “Hamlet” and I love my own mother.
But to… Ugh!!! Gross!!!
Only a monstrous pig like Donald Trump would fuck his own daughter.
Which I believe he did.
Its seperating reality from erotic fiction, Im confident none of us wouldsee our own family sexually, whether parent, offspring or sibling. BUT, in erotica, it is one of the big forbidden taboos, and that alone makes it 100 x as exciting, as its so naughty.
..andwhoreally wants reality in erotic fiction ? Although i really dont get the monster genre.
Yeah it’s funny isn’t it, I only started doing an incestuous comic because I started a few pages with a normal couple and was like “This is dull, how can I make it a bit naughty / exciting?” and BAM! Wincest. I guess it adds that everyone-knows-this-shouldn’t happen little injection of excitement that you’d otherwise lack – and that little injection is what normal real relationships feel like when you’re making it up but seem to be getting closer to someone -that’s how it feels! I think anyway hehh 🙂